Friday, April 07, 2006

Thank you Cardinal Mahoney...

For telling such a stupid, obvious lie in your recent interview. Such incredible duplicity from people like you--garbage that even the most ill-informed, uncatechized confirmand in your flock can see through--can only build sympathy for people like us.

Joe: Hello Cardinal. With the growing interest in traditional worship of the Catholic Church are we going to see a more generous use of the Traditional Latin Mass?

Cardinal Mahon[e]y: It is not correct to say "traditional worship" in our Church. For a small slice of Church history, Latin was the language of Mass. But the Council moved us beyond that to a new Roman Missal. We must continue forward with the Church. However, it is important to bring with us our Latin hymns and other treasures from the past ages.


Heh, heh, heh, heh.

4 comments:

Ian Andrew Palko said...

A five-year-old could see the problem with this: A small slice of history (~1900 years) ... so what exactly does that make the 40 years the Mass has been in the vernacular? A dash, pinch, or smidgen?

Anonymous said...

I got this from the same Cardinal Mahoney "chat":

Bill: Our pastor removes the holy water from the church during Lent. I showed him the letter from the Congregation of Divine Worship in which it states that this practice is not allowed. He chose to disregard the letter and its directives. Can he do this? What can I say to him to encourage the return of the holy water from our church?

CardinalMahony: There is no reason to remove holy water from our Churches. On the Easter Vigil, we replace the former holy water with the new Easter Water.
CardinalMahony: Your pastor is probably following a practice of some years ago when holy water was removed from Holy Thursday to the Easter Vigil. But that practice is no longer in effect. (from Bill: Our pastor removes the holy water from the church during Lent. I showed him the letter from the Congregation of Divine Worship in which it states that this practice is not allowed. He chose to disregard the letter and its directives. Can he do this? What can I say to him to encourage the return of the holy water from our church?

CardinalMahony: There is no reason to remove holy water from our Churches. On the Easter Vigil, we replace the former holy water with the new Easter Water.
CardinalMahony: Your pastor is probably following a practice of some years ago when holy water was removed from Holy Thursday to the Easter Vigil. But that practice is no longer in effect. Bill: Our pastor removes the holy water from the church during Lent. I showed him the letter from the Congregation of Divine Worship in which it states that this practice is not allowed. He chose to disregard the letter and its directives. Can he do this? What can I say to him to encourage the return of the holy water from our church?

CardinalMahony: There is no reason to remove holy water from our Churches. On the Easter Vigil, we replace the former holy water with the new Easter Water.
CardinalMahony: Your pastor is probably following a practice of some years ago when holy water was removed from Holy Thursday to the Easter Vigil. But that practice is no longer in effect. (from http://www.recongress.org/chat2006.htm )

The Office of Worship from the KC-St. Joseph diocese recently sent a message to Pastors and liturgists (full message on http://priesthood.motime.com/1142005518#554398 ). It this letter it says "Bishop Finn asks that all parishes observe the customary practice of empty fonts from Holy Thursday until the end of the Easter Vigil rather than the innovative practice of dry fonts for the entire duration of Lent."

Hmmm...who's correct here? (My money's on Bp. Finn.)

Anonymous said...

...sorry about posting Mahoney's reply twice...it's past my bedtime.

AWG said...

Mahony is an embarrassment.