tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15621027.post9157069596914387880..comments2024-02-23T15:50:19.097-06:00Comments on Curmudgeon's Cave: A starting point for Catholic Separatist discussionsCurmudgeonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16958570482046462392noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15621027.post-42894039822107739182007-09-15T07:38:00.000-05:002007-09-15T07:38:00.000-05:00Looks like it kind of follows the condition for Ju...Looks like it kind of follows the condition for Just War. But is it just made up for the catechism or has there been some theological development behind this passage? The Catholic Church is not a revolutionary Church despite the love affair many of its clergy have had with communism the last half century. <BR/><BR/>But Church teachings do not seem to half caught up with the reality of the evil nature of most secular, <I>democratic</I> regimes. Can rebelling against a government that is attempting to suppress the Church be an imperative while rebelling against a Catholic monarch be a sin?<BR/><BR/>In any case, the catechism entry is far better than the current Evangelical Protestant attitude that a person's Christian faith requires submission to whatever political authority exitst, no matter how odius.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15621027.post-63210557293332217382007-09-12T14:23:00.000-05:002007-09-12T14:23:00.000-05:00It will take some emailing because I know who I ha...It will take some emailing because I know who I had the conversation with years ago. I know they know where it came from as this person is a scholarly Catholic geek who can tell me. We are just a little bit busier now so give me some time out but I will get a citation. <BR/><BR/>Also, remember, I have read The Book and we win in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15621027.post-55306696291700299872007-09-12T08:45:00.000-05:002007-09-12T08:45:00.000-05:00Alison, I think there's a strong case to be made t...Alison, I think there's a strong case to be made that there is no redress--the mob has won.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16958570482046462392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15621027.post-27146086805900396202007-09-12T08:44:00.000-05:002007-09-12T08:44:00.000-05:00Thanks Alison. I'm really looking for some citiat...Thanks Alison. <BR/><BR/>I'm really looking for some citiations, folks! Somebody (one of the six of you still out there) do my homework for me!Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16958570482046462392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15621027.post-66388145277760511752007-09-09T19:05:00.000-05:002007-09-09T19:05:00.000-05:00I believe that it was Thomas Aquinas. This is on...I believe that it was Thomas Aquinas. This is only an educated guess from similar discussions from my younger days.<BR/>I would find it hard to prove that all means of redress have been exhausted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com